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Post by Vors Nymphkilla on May 3, 2009 9:52:48 GMT -5
Found this on the Dag website: dagorhir.com/gear/content/weapon_tutorials/spiral_shield.phpdont know how well it would work. anyone interested in trying it out? few of us use dap so i dont know if it would be as sturdy as a solid core shiled. but if it works it might be a new alternative than using wood and plastic core
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Post by Haze on May 3, 2009 10:37:52 GMT -5
too much foam!
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Post by Swordbrother Nova on May 3, 2009 14:59:10 GMT -5
I was actually thinking about making my punch shield like that, but I like for my strap shields to have weight, I don't think there's any point in gluing it to a wooden core, ^_^' Dev wants to try it though.
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Post by Meroidoc on May 4, 2009 9:25:14 GMT -5
...yea i dont care how much stuff you dont have... that is retarded
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Post by Swordbrother Nova on May 4, 2009 11:30:43 GMT -5
That would have to be some precise foam cutting to make it pretty anyway... and to be able to glue shit to it.
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Post by Morguinness on May 4, 2009 17:00:16 GMT -5
i don't like it. a shield needs to have a sturdy core to it. otherwise, it's useless on the line. the only way this would be good is if the person using it strictly fought one on one all of the time.
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Post by eoin on May 4, 2009 22:57:01 GMT -5
You guys have seen two 13 inch spiral shields in use. I used 3M77 for the adhesive and they held up alright so far. The biggest fault with my design is the way I attached the straps.
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Post by Meroidoc on May 5, 2009 6:42:09 GMT -5
its a gaint was of foam though... between the foam body boards in the summer and the plastic sleds in the winter why would anyone need to waste that much foam
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Post by Swordbrother Nova on May 5, 2009 12:14:50 GMT -5
I just don't like them because they turn out so light. If it works for someone any they don't mind wasting foam then good for you.
Eoin, How DID you attach the straps, just curious in case anyone wants to try it.
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Post by eoin on May 5, 2009 12:24:57 GMT -5
its a gaint was of foam though... between the foam body boards in the summer and the plastic sleds in the winter why would anyone need to waste that much foam They are building a shield in the spring after there aren't sleds on sale and before the body boards come out. Building in the fall same deal just reverse the core options It's summer and they want a larger round shield then a body board can core. The only tools they have are a box cutter and some form of strong adhesive. They have an extra camp pad laying around and decide to make something from it. And waste is subjective. I would say the foam isn't wasted since it is going into building something for the sport we enjoy. Yes there may be more efficient ways to cut a camp pad in order to maximize the number of different items you can create from it. However I only need so many weapons.
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Post by eoin on May 5, 2009 12:42:53 GMT -5
Eoin, How DID you attach the straps, just curious in case anyone wants to try it. In probably the second worst possible way. I covered the shield face with adhesive. I then Attached a couple of inches of the strap to the face, wrapped it around the back and attached the last few inches on the face opposite the first attachment point. I say it wasn't a smart way to attach them because as the straps stretched it began to spin or slide on my arm. I tried to tighten them back up by tacking the straps to the back of the shield with duct tape. Of course half way through warsong the tape had pretty much given way and it was sliding again. The way thre tutorial says to attach the straps is to cut slits in the spiral and thread the straps through those and then glue the face on over that. All and all my opinion of them is: +They are extremely easy to make. +You can tailor the size of the shield by controling the number of circuits the spiral makes. +Great for play fighting with little kids. -I agree with the weight issue, they are light. I think they would make great loaner shields. They have a decent quality. They can be used until they fall appart then put back together. They are practically disposable shields I think that they are more useful at the smaller sizes since that way you can get more of them from fewer rolls of foam. I think if I tried I could get five bucklers from two rolls.
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Post by araduin on May 5, 2009 18:07:07 GMT -5
Do they pass the taco rule? They don't seem like they would.
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Post by eoin on May 5, 2009 23:03:57 GMT -5
Do they pass the taco rule? They don't seem like they would. Technically the taco rule isn't in the national rules currently. Even when it goes back in mine should pass due to their size. Any blow that would bend the shield would send my arm into my chest anyway Mine have two layers of blue foam over an inch thick spiral and I believe the originals pattern has one layer of blue over an inch and a half spiral. Any way I will bring one to the next practice I can get to
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Post by Swordbrother Nova on May 6, 2009 14:03:49 GMT -5
The two layers over the 1" spiral probably stabilizes it enough, I imagine.
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Post by Mercaine on Jun 25, 2009 14:48:28 GMT -5
It appears too much foam. do a comparison build and find out. I have like five shields so i'm not building one just because.
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