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Post by SixFingerz on Feb 17, 2009 20:49:16 GMT -5
Read a hundred different weapons tutorials and you'll get a hundred different ideas towards foam.
Just what is the general consensus on pool noddle foam. I've used it under a layer of blue when I rebuilt my flail but have never used it as a striking surface. It's thicker than the pipe insulation I use as icidental padding
What this boils down to is, looking around the check in at Invasion, a lot of weapons coming in from other groups seem to be smaller than our own (fewer layers?) yet were safely passing. I've been playing with using noodle on a beat stick, and while I don't think it hits too hard, I certainly wouldn't want to take a head shot off it nor want it only calibrated to big thugs like myself. It's a smidge over 35 inches total with 24 inches of octagonal noodle as striking surface. The core is three bound pieces of the fiberglass driveway markers I originally used to stiffen up my glaive core. Ideas suggestions. I haven't read the new MOA standings on this so if I'm blatantly working outside the rules, let me know.
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Post by Haze on Feb 17, 2009 21:10:40 GMT -5
I've made a stick with a pool noodle, it works good but it blows out very quick.
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Post by Swordbrother Nova on Feb 17, 2009 23:39:40 GMT -5
I'm not sure what foam it is exactly OOT uses, I know it's some times blue, but Devaryn gets really nice thinner, lighter foam, Not sure where he orders it from, but I know Scarlet and Seamus found a nice website to order nicer foam off of.
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Post by Meroidoc on Feb 18, 2009 7:16:27 GMT -5
I have used the pool noodle foam before.. the thinner stuff works pretty well but stings a bit more of the limbs. the thicker stuff would probably work better... the core for mine was a piece of 1/2" fiberglass wrapped in a layer of blue foam and shoved up inside the noodle...
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Post by Mercaine on Feb 18, 2009 17:15:55 GMT -5
THe only thing i could think of with the pool noodle foam is that it would sting a big (especially when wet). But I think that it would work fine for some things. Especially as the courtesy padding on the flail!. That way you aren't throwing away blue foam for something that will never actually strike.
Beware! There is a smoother and thinner type of blue camping foam that floats around Gander Mountain, and K-Mart that is NOT good for making weapons. It stings like mad and it also makes the swords too thin.
Remember when you make a sword it needs to be 3" wide across the flat unless its a single side. Then there's a diff measurement for that.
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Post by Morguinness on Feb 18, 2009 17:56:09 GMT -5
Like Six said, I have also noticed that at other events many people seem to have thinner, lighter, and faster weapons. especially blues. since i have no talent for making these things, believe me i've tried, then how do i get my hands on one?
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Post by Mercaine on Feb 20, 2009 16:38:32 GMT -5
There is a website edhellen.com that sells blues. But you have to modify them to have them make weight. The Nova's both use these swords. They come in kits or put together already. The kits are around 30 dollars and a finished sword I think its like 45.
We don't typically mention or promote them because their weapons arent specifically made for dagorhir combat.
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Post by Swordbrother Nova on Mar 1, 2009 20:08:39 GMT -5
ATCUALLY you should see some of the weapons Devaryn, Glaum, and Zolothan have made using the blue foam with a fiberglass core. they're nicely weighted and what not and they are pretty cheap to make.
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Post by brammirimon on Mar 1, 2009 23:09:25 GMT -5
I was actully tutored at the invasion by some of those guys and I think I might have gotten a good idea on how a lot of doing the faster lighter thing... it is not to hard to do and it works well with just the blue foam
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Post by Swordbrother Nova on Mar 1, 2009 23:14:08 GMT -5
Glaum explained the sandwich style to me today and it seems very simple, although... I forget what it was that they used to weight the swords so nicely....
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Post by Haze on Mar 1, 2009 23:14:48 GMT -5
explain here plz
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Post by Swordbrother Nova on Mar 1, 2009 23:27:37 GMT -5
They used fiberglass for the core and cut out three 2.5" wide stripes of blue foam, one is cut so that it 'straddles' the core, I'm not sure how much space is left between the tip of the sword and the actual core but I'm sure that it can be figured out. Then you take the other two strips that you've cut and 'sandwich' them on either side of the middle piece.
If you want to blade to have a square tip then continue to the next paragraph, if you want it rounded then you bevel the tip of the blade (make the 45 degree cuts on either side of the tip so that it's more rounded)
Then you measure out one large strip to go from one side of the base of the blade, over the tip, then to the bottom of the blade on the other side. That's what I got when he told me how to make it, and they use dap for the most part I believe.
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Post by brammirimon on Mar 1, 2009 23:32:34 GMT -5
they use the long flat lead wieghts you use for pinewood durby cars
but I find that just a PVC handle leather warping for it and the pomle padding does a good job too
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Post by Swordbrother Nova on Mar 1, 2009 23:38:14 GMT -5
Yeah! Those things, we always have to go to hobby shops and stuff to find those and it's such a pain! I always get bored, wander off and get lost....
Yes, the weights!
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Post by Mercaine on Mar 2, 2009 10:00:19 GMT -5
Yeah. I wish i would have had some of those for my sword the other day. I had to get creative with selective taping and pennies here and there. Sigh.. it was crazy.
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