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Post by Haze on Sept 29, 2009 23:12:46 GMT -5
two points of interest here!
1. If you are interested in being an administrator for Maethodoron please contact me via a private message on here, email, text message, facebook, etc and let me know as I will be creating a ballot.
2. How should this election be run. Are the 3 primary administrative positions what we should have (one head administrator and 2 vice admins). Should we go back to having an official herald/rulekeeper/practice officiator? etc, etc discussion
Adding what Nova wrote in another thread here to tidy up.
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Post by Haze on Sept 29, 2009 23:15:22 GMT -5
My opinion on the subject.
Forget that we never had elections before for anything, that is what people want now and it is indeed the most fair way to do anything.
So I think there should be a secret ballot (not sure who would keep the votes) run over the course of 2 weeks from an official announcement, after that the votes would be counted and what not.
I think on this ballot we should have 4 separate positions being
Realm Administrator
Vice Administrator
Event Administrator
Head Herald
I think they are pretty self explanatory, maybe a Book Keeper too if that was deemed a necessary position that the other 4 could not cover.
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Post by Tiradora on Sept 29, 2009 23:26:45 GMT -5
this is perfect, cyrus. i like the idea of renaming the titles. "bookeeper" was always such a useless title. i never really did anything bookeeping wise.
as for how it should be run, i'm sure there are any number of online ballots that could be created apart from facebook or the boards. a trusted leader from another realm could be asked to manage the ballot. as it was said earlier, it's not always easy for members to get online. but if we allow voting to take place over a number of days, everyone should have an opportunity to vote. it is all of our resonsibilities to make sure our friends know voting is happening. having in person ballots just seems unreasonable.
it is also all of our responsibilities to make sure our friends know that they have the opportunity to run for a position. surely we can let everyone know what's happening via text message. any way we can get a list of people involved in maethodoron so we can make sure everyone is notified?
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Post by Haze on Sept 29, 2009 23:28:07 GMT -5
I'll make sure to send a mass mail out before I go to sleep about this and I'll update the twitter.
I was mainly just waiting for Mercaine to get off work to catch up lol.
How long should nominations be open for? 1 week from a mass mailing?
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Post by Tiradora on Sept 29, 2009 23:41:43 GMT -5
that's a good question. a week sounds fine. but there may be other suggestions.
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Post by Haze on Sept 29, 2009 23:50:39 GMT -5
Okay my ideas on positions in a little more detail.
Realm Administrator runs the realm, keeps track of financial information, officiates when necessary, promotes the realm, can cover for any other position and has final say so on everything to do with Maethodoron.
Vice Administrator should assist with everything the Realm Administrator is responsible for.
Event Administrator works mostly on organizing our events and events that we attend.
Head Herald should be responsible for keeping an up to date copy of the rules and scenarios with them whenever they are in attendance at any event along with the equipment necessary to check weapons and run scenarios.
All administrators should develop bylaws together with input from the general realm.
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Post by Swordbrother Nova on Sept 29, 2009 23:50:46 GMT -5
Alright, so I wrote out what I think would work for a structure. I'm not saying that this is how things are going to be, I'm making a suggestion, others please feel free to follow suit, it is very much encouraged.
I think we need two groups of admins, Two people in the one group are the 'book keepers' they take care of the money,
and paper work like waivers and official dagorhir papers.
Another group of three focus on planning events, practices, and more social aspects of the realm including decisions on what direction the realm should take.
Perhaps a separate position for head herald, but I'm not sure if that's too many positions. Budgets for events planned by this group must be approved by the book keepers.
Head heralds are in charge on the field, and can end a practice should the need arise.
Laws/Conduct
We should adress things like arguments clashing of personalities, disagreements what ever you want to call it.
we should separate exchanges of words from violence and punish appropriately and write down what exactly those punishments will be.
When someone commits an offense three people should be elected for that specific problem, minutes should be kept on how it is dealt with.
It is up those individuals to decide how to take care of the issue, they will say what they've come up with and there will be X amount of days
where people can suggest other repercussions this way that committee of three can not have grudges held against them.
We should probably think about making sure people act in a way that no one will be upset with them representing the same realm (Maethodoron)
If there is a problem with admins an X/Y majority of realm wide voters should be able to oust them from their position and another admins takes their place.
any changes to rules need to be presented for a voting period of X amount of time before being put into effect.
We also need to make sure that there is a way to ban members who would be appropriate to ban and have a clear definition of what warrants banning.
Admin meeting should be structured and open to public attendance, so long as the public allows the meeting to progress in a useful manner.
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Post by Haze on Sept 29, 2009 23:53:27 GMT -5
Nova I think we have similar ideas, as we could group Realm Admin/Vice Admin into the book keeping side of things like you said and Event Admin/Head Herald into the event/social side. I think we are on the same page there.
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Post by Swordbrother Nova on Sept 29, 2009 23:54:38 GMT -5
Rock! Everyone keeps ideas coming please!
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Post by Tiradora on Sept 29, 2009 23:57:04 GMT -5
all awesome thoughts and comments. hopefully in the morning we'll have many more ideas from people who haven't been online tonight. as for me and araduin, i think it's time for bed. we start our move tomorrow  |
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Post by Mulesak(Paragon) on Sept 30, 2009 0:24:03 GMT -5
AS Maeth is made up of various units, allowing each Unit's Commander a say-so in the goings on seems prudent. Something along the lines of "in the event of a TIE vote by the Administartors, each Unit Commander is awarded 1 vote to break ties"
Or have the Unit Commanders act as "member's rights advocates", where if a conflict arises, the Unit Commander acts in favor of the accused.
Id also stipulate that Individual Unit Commanders should not be allowed to be voted in as Admin/Officers, as a situation could occur that conflicts, and really, they have enough to do managing their Unit anyway.
just a thought
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Post by Haze on Sept 30, 2009 0:25:11 GMT -5
I like that idea, I always gave access on the forums to unit leaders as well as administrators.
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Post by Mulesak(Paragon) on Sept 30, 2009 0:38:56 GMT -5
Speaking as a former realm administrator who was removed from his position( was an ADMIN for the Online NWN Community ALFA between 1998 and 2001), I can tell you that these situations get really messy. It would be good( read as extremly fucking neccisary) to have provisions in place regarding removal of an ADMIN. They need to be IRONCLAD, ie, no personal crap involved in it. In ALFA's case, we had a tribunal made up of "players-rites advocates", and admins. The guy who best-manned me at my wedding had to step back and abstain( for obvious reasons), even though he was the Realm Head Admin. My suggestion would be to have a panel made up of the ADMIN, Unit Leaders and 1member advocate per 10 Maeth members.Each Member advocate should be able to voice their opinions on the topic, but not allowed a vote in the matter. They are there mainly to make sure that the members' voice is heard. of course, the commanders and admin should be required to listen to them and take those opinions into account. I'll see if I can dig up our old ALFA charter, as we had it notorized and made all legal-like...........its a good model if nothing else. found it: www.alandfaraway.org/chartersection 4 is very useful |
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Post by kira on Sept 30, 2009 9:24:46 GMT -5
All good ideas guys
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Post by Tiberius on Sept 30, 2009 15:44:10 GMT -5
since we have the boards now, we can have online elections. instead of being blind sided by admins at practices that --- is during -- date and --- is going to happen. all we need is a quorum- of people to make elections happen. even if some people cant get online to vote for whatever, there is still the majority that gets the word out of what we like to do.
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