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Post by Dro on Dec 15, 2009 23:54:12 GMT -5
I want to make a red, but I want it to be a slightly abnormal red. I'm thinking either  or  I'm having trouble deciding. The first would be easier to make and i'd make into more of a polearm than a sword, and the Red Queen would be a sword between 4 and 5 feet long. Which do you guys like better? |
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Post by Vors Nymphkilla on Dec 16, 2009 1:51:54 GMT -5
the top one would be really easy except for the pommel. the bottom one would take ALOT of foam sculpting and possibly some clever plasti-idip work to make it look right
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Post by Dro on Dec 16, 2009 11:20:36 GMT -5
Yeah. Which is why I'm torn. The top one would take much less time. But the bottom one would give me more of a sense of accomplishment if i can actually pull it off. Although I would probably just paint the cover rather than mess it all up with an attempt at plasti-dip. Pus I wouldn't know where to find such a thing, and I'm sure it's pretty expensive and hard to use. Maybe I'll make a blue version of it first and go from there.
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Post by Vors Nymphkilla on Dec 17, 2009 4:23:28 GMT -5
Eoin has used plastidip on his glaive, hed know where to get it and how expensive. if the second one is only 4 feet long or shorter it could be made with pvc core that could be gently bent to give you the right shape
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Post by Izad on Dec 17, 2009 14:25:18 GMT -5
vors are you talking about the bottom picture with the red handle? if you are you shouldnt need to bend the pvc at all. there isnt any kind of curve in that sword. if you mean the curve in the striking surface of the blade, then just cut out the foam that way. No rules say that the foam used has to be a flat straight piece. You can cut the shape into the foam you are using.
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Post by Vors Nymphkilla on Dec 17, 2009 19:30:40 GMT -5
look closely at the blade relative to the handle. you have to bend it because the back of the blade doesnt go straight up from the handle.
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Post by Izad on Dec 17, 2009 20:47:34 GMT -5
i still say just put the padding on it to make it look that way, it will only be a single striking surface anyway and curving pvc is a pain in the ass. I dont know anyone in maeth that has successfully done it and have it come out looking half decent.
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Post by Swordbrother Nova on Dec 17, 2009 22:15:36 GMT -5
To be fair no dag sword is going to have the same proportions and still be legal, even non striking surface needs to be sufficiently padded and that would make the curve a little more than slight.
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Post by Vors Nymphkilla on Dec 18, 2009 0:05:27 GMT -5
i really dont think it would be any problem at all. just needs creativity and a good foamsmith
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Post by Swordbrother Nova on Dec 18, 2009 0:36:05 GMT -5
And a good PVC bending job so it doesn't snap.
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Post by Dro on Dec 18, 2009 1:27:13 GMT -5
i'm not worried about it being exact. As long as the blade has the same basic shape. But i realized it would just be a naginata if i made it into a polearm. I'm gunna try doing a combination of sandwiching and wraping the foam to get the right blade look. i'm probably also going to try adding a stabbing tip.
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Post by Dro on Dec 18, 2009 1:35:05 GMT -5
also, i know everyone talks alot about band shoppe pole for long reds. if anyone is getting some, please let me know so i don't have to pay AS MUCH out the ass for it. hahaha
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Post by Swordbrother Nova on Dec 18, 2009 2:29:48 GMT -5
I think Eoin has some.
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Post by eoin on Dec 19, 2009 3:37:52 GMT -5
Why yes I do. Also since I forgot to mention it in my response to Rynnt's message and because it is useful type information for everyone else I will mention what I can remember about my plasti-dipping. A can cost between 10 and 15 bucks at Lowes. I forget how much exactly but I remember the dip was nearer to the low end and the spray cans were toward the high end.
Now as far as how far that will get you. The blade and safety padding assembly (the striking padding and the box padding) used up one can of the dip. I put what I think is a decently thick skin on that area becuase I expected it to stand up to abuse. It was easy to apply even after it ate away at the glue that bonded the brush foam to the paint brush handle. That's when I started using it like finger paint. You need to put it on in layers so it dries right. It does't like being put on in the cold. Also if it is humid out it developes a "blush" or light greyish color to it.
The haft got two cans of the spray. It's thinner then the dip and and the skin on the haft isn't that thick either. However there is slightly more haft area then blade area. When using the spray be careful not to spray on to much at a time or it will drip and run. What I said before about layers, temp, and humidity all apply here too.
Also for those of us that are on the National boards Wynar (the guy that is pretty much mister Plasti-dip Dagorhir) made a nice tutorial that is in the Weapons and Armor section. Before you actually go through with using dip I suggest that you read it. He answers questions with more knowledge than I can muster.
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Post by Swordbrother Nova on Dec 20, 2009 20:15:16 GMT -5
Wynar weapons are ridiculously gorgeous. It's insane.
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